Are they worth the money?

KateSpoods · Jan 5, 2023

So I live in the UK and I have come across a sub-adult Female Pamphobeteus Sp. Ultramarinus (£275) and Sub-adult Female Pamphobeteus Sp. Esmeraldas (£167) alongside some other pretty nice species.

I cannot find any slings of these 2 nevermind sub-adult females and was wondering if they are worth what they are being sold at? Thank you so much for the help!

DustyD · Jan 5, 2023

I don’t know either species, so I can’t speak to the value. But ultimately it is a subjective matter. How much do you want them and can you afford it.

Also a word of caution. Make sure you buy from a reputable dealer. There have been cases of hard to find T’s sold that were other species altogether, either intentionally or accidentally. Also it is not unheard of T’s being sold as females when they were not.

Hopefully someone with experience with those two species will respond.

Blackdog · Jan 5, 2023

I paid $145 for a Pamphobeteus Antinous sling at show and of course no idea of sex. Confirmed females are more expensive, but it all depends on you- if the value seems fair to you. I of course second the caution- who are you buying from. Google can be real helpful and don't be afraid to ask what the return policy is in regards to misidentification and sexing.

Phobik1 · Jan 6, 2023

I have senveral Pampho's none of which are full grown. I have a young female Ultramarinus (NICE!) as well as an Insignus, Santo Domingo Small, Vespertinus females. Interesting animals that will get pretty big in general. They are rare somewhat, so if you see a feamale and really trust the seller, grab them. Just my 2 centz.

Konstantin · Jan 7, 2023

KateSpoods said:
So I live in the UK and I have come across a sub-adult Female Pamphobeteus Sp. Ultramarinus (£275) and Sub-adult Female Pamphobeteus Sp. Esmeraldas (£167) alongside some other pretty nice species.

I cannot find any slings of these 2 nevermind sub-adult females and was wondering if they are worth what they are being sold at? Thank you so much for the help!

Hi
Pamphobeteus ultramarinus are gorgeous spider and on my to get list but quite rare in UK
I think I recall seeing those prices you mentioned and they are high.The Spider Shop had some of those for sale not long ago for £165 and yours is most likely one of those resold for profit.
At the end of the day every spider is only worth the price you can afford and willing to pay depending on how much you want it.
Regards Konstantin

KateSpoods · Jan 7, 2023

Thank you all so much for your comments and advice. I'm definitely going to consider but first of all speak about returns Incase of it being a male or a different species. Fingers crossed something works out

SullivanC · Jan 7, 2023

DustyD said:
I don’t know either species, so I can’t speak to the value. But ultimately it is a subjective matter. How much do you want them and can you afford it.

Also a word of caution. Make sure you buy from a reputable dealer. There have been cases of hard to find T’s sold that were other species altogether, either intentionally or accidentally. Also it is not unheard of T’s being sold as females when they were not.

Hopefully someone with experience with those two species will respond.

You are right people do that trick alot selling people sub adult males as female so by the time you realize the gender its already too late. Did that happen to you before?

SullivanC · Jan 7, 2023

Female tarantulas are usually always more expensive than unsexed or slings but if you dont want to worry about the sling or unsexed juvenile being male then it is usually better to get females unless you want to breed tarantulas then you need a male too of course but if you dont like breeding spiders I would just go with a female because if you raise a sling to be adult and if its male but you dont have any female available then you would have to find a person with female so he can breed with her

KateSpoods · Jan 7, 2023

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SullivanC said:
Female tarantulas are usually always more expensive than unsexed or slings but if you dont want to worry about the sling or unsexed juvenile being male then it is usually better to get females unless you want to breed tarantulas then you need a male too of course but if you dont like breeding spiders I would just go with a female because if you raise a sling to be adult and if its male but you dont have any female available then you would have to find a person with female so he can breed with her

Was considering possibly breeding her by asking around to see if there's any MM's for loan so I could make some money back from her being so pricey... Her being Sub-Adult would give me a bit of time too. But wasn't overly sure if I'd be paying the correct amount due to my research leaving me nowhere

KateSpoods · Jan 7, 2023

So the result is, I actually found a confirmed female Xenethis Sp. Bright for a great price. I guess being patient about things really pays off

DustyD · Jan 7, 2023

KateSpoods said:
So the result is, I actually found a confirmed female Xenethis Sp. Bright for a great price. I guess being patient about things really pays off

Yes it can. Congrats!

DustyD · Jan 7, 2023

SullivanC said:
You are right people do that trick alot selling people sub adult males as female so by the time you realize the gender its already too late. Did that happen to you before?

Not sex wise, although I bought a 3 inch unsexed G. Pulchripes for about $70 from a small pet store but highly suspected it was male. The store may not have known, but I got to believe the dealer/ breeder knew or suspected. Within about a year it matured.

I also received incorrect species from the now defunct Eresus.

plessey · Jan 7, 2023

I remember buying a P. ultramarinus female in 2005 for only £45. Amazing how prices have changed over the years.

SullivanC · Jan 7, 2023

DustyD said:
Not sex wise, although I bought a 3 inch unsexed G. Pulchripes for about $70 from a small pet store but highly suspected it was male. The store may not have known, but I got to believe the dealer/ breeder knew or suspected. Within about a year it matured.

I also received incorrect species from the now defunct Eresus.

Its male now?

DustyD · Jan 7, 2023

SullivanC said:
Its male now?

Yes it matured and hooked out in early August.

KateSpoods · Jan 8, 2023

This is the beauty I'll be getting soon I'm in love. 12cm (rough estimate by current owner)

SullivanC · Jan 8, 2023

DustyD said:
Yes it matured and hooked out in early August.

Very beautiful

did you find him lady for breeding?

SullivanC · Jan 8, 2023

KateSpoods said:
This is the beauty I'll be getting soon I'm in love. 12cm (rough estimate by current owner)

Very beautiful

size is pretty good

DustyD · Jan 8, 2023

SullivanC said:
Very beautiful did you find him lady for breeding?

No, I tried some places fairly local to me but no go. I kind have resigned myself to keeping him and just enjoying him as long as I can. Also thinking of ways to preserve him.

SullivanC · Jan 8, 2023

DustyD said:
No, I tried some places fairly local to me but no go. I kind have resigned myself to keeping him and just enjoying him as long as I can. Also thinking of ways to preserve him.

Yeah it sucks when you cant find a female for him but did you try reputable dealers? they usually have females for most species so you might get lucky with them

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