Raising Roaches

[Calico]

Looking for some suggestions and/or help with raising roaches. I have a colony of about 50 with various sizes. My problem is, I can't seem to figure out what they will eat. I have tried potatoes, apples, carrots, dry dog food, oranges and roach chow. They don't seem to eat any of it.
Any suggestions anyone can offer?

 

[FishermanSteve]

Looking for some suggestions and/or help with raising roaches. I have a colony of about 50 with various sizes. My problem is, I can't seem to figure out what they will eat. I have tried potatoes, apples, carrots, dry dog food, oranges and roach chow. They don't seem to eat any of it.
Any suggestions anyone can offer?

I have been feeding those exact foods to my dubia colony with no issues. As long as your temps are at least mid to high 70s and your humidity isn’t in the single digits, I would guess they are eating. I have 500+ dubias and I only have to replace their chow every 2 weeks or so. They will demolish oranges I cut in half tho lol. So I can imagine that 50 wouldn’t make too much of a dent, especially if you only have a few adults.

 

[Arachnoclown]

Looking for some suggestions and/or help with raising roaches. I have a colony of about 50 with various sizes. My problem is, I can't seem to figure out what they will eat. I have tried potatoes, apples, carrots, dry dog food, oranges and roach chow. They don't seem to eat any of it.
Any suggestions anyone can offer?

What type of roaches are you using?
What kind of temperatures are you at?

 

[Zanfe]

Have you tired smaller portions of fruit and veg?
My own small (150ish)colony will eat like half /3'4ths of an apple slice a day.
How you keeping them?

 

[Calico]

What type of roaches are you using?
What kind of temperatures are you at?

They are B.Lat's. Temp in room is about 65 F. It's in a spare room, which is the only place I have room for them.

 

[Calico]

Have you tired smaller portions of fruit and veg?
My own small (150ish)colony will eat like half /3'4ths of an apple slice a day.
How you keeping them?

I give them a slice of apple and potatoes which is about 1/4-1/2" thk. They are in a 5 gal aquarium with wire mesh lid, in a cabinet cubby hole that is dark. They don't even come out and eat if I put a small amount. Thinking my temp in room may be a little colder than should be. I don't have central heating, just a floor/wall heater in main part of house.

 

[Arachnoclown]

I have redrunners, dubia, and hissers. All are eating and breeding out of control. Dubias I've noticed hate lights...others dont seam to care. I keep my roaches at 82 degrees. You may need to add a heat pad and thermostat to the side of your enclosure unless you can heat the entire room.

 

[Arachnoclown]

As for food...they eat everything. Green veggies and bananas seam to be a favorite. Roach chow is a waste of money...its chicken feed. It's cheaper to just buy a giant bag of chicken feed at your nearest feed store. I just blend up dry dog and cat food. I dont give them any water at all...just fresh fruits and veggies. As for substrate I use a thin layer of coco fiber.

 

[octanejunkie]

I have a colony of Rusty Reds that have been breeding for several years. Sterilite container painted black, screened lid, cocofiber substrate, egg crate and food dishes. Easy peasy.
I use a heating pad under the container with a plug in dimmer to keep temps in the low 80s all year long. I spray the sides with water as necessary to keep humidity right for the oothecas.
Dry dog food with fruit and veg scraps is all they need. Don't let the food get moldy. They are eating. All roaches eat. It's their main job besides breeding.

 

[Colorado Ts]

Looking for some suggestions and/or help with raising roaches. I have a colony of about 50 with various sizes. My problem is, I can't seem to figure out what they will eat. I have tried potatoes, apples, carrots, dry dog food, oranges and roach chow. They don't seem to eat any of it.
Any suggestions anyone can offer?

I've posted this before:

I have found that the species, B. lateralis is a very reliable durable species to use as a feeder. The roaches are half the size of a B. dubia, but they do mature to breeding size much faster. It took me 3 months to get my B. lateralis colony off the ground and producing at its current level.

I had a few issues and problems to solve along the way.

A lot of people will keep their roach colonies in a bare container without substrate, however, winters in my area are very dry and the roaches were having difficulty surviving moult, I was getting higher than expected deaths. I put 2 inches of coco fibre in my colony container, which allows me to periodically add water as needed to maintain a higher humidity within the colony. Once I started doing this, my incidental deaths during moulting went away. And the colony began growing.

You may not need to do this in your region, but it has made a noticeable difference for me.

The Red Runners and dubia roaches, both, have high temperature requirements for their life cycles. I use an adjustable reptile heating pad set under under my colony enclosure. This allows me to maintain areas within the enclosure at a temperature of 90 degrees +/-. This temperature is needed for the roaches to productively breed and reproduce, less then 90 degrees and there is no breeding taking place and the colony stops growing. This spring, I'll be building a large box out of Styrofoam sheeting and using a temperature regulator to maintain better uniform temperatures throughout the colony, not just in certain areas. The box will be large enough to hold both the B. lateralis colony and the B. dubia colony. This insulated box will save energy costs for heating the colonies and improve breeding efficiency. Residual heat loss from the colony will act as a space heater and be used to warm my tarantula room. Heat loss from my temperature regulated "sling cabinet" is currently warming my tarantula room as well.

I check my colonies daily to ensure that food is being consumed and that there is enough water crystals for the colony. I feed the roaches a mixture of both low protein pond fish food pellets and high protein flake food, along with stalk lettuce and orange slices. They will strip the lettuce leaves to a single vein in one night and completely hollow out the orange slices in about 2 days. Since I started feeding oranges, the colony has grown noticeable larger, much more than expected. I don't know what it is or why, but feeding oranges to the roach colony seems to promote breeding and is having a positive impact on my colony.

I am currently working on a recipe to create a gelatin based feed for the roaches...it would be a dry mix that I would add hot water too and let it setup in the fridge to produce a solidified gelatin feed block for the roaches. I then cut off a chunks as needed and put these into the colony to both feed and water the roaches. A gelatin based feed would provide all their nutritional requirements and water requirements in one material, making colony maintenance easier.

To develop my recipe, I'm first going to divide the colony into 4 separate colonies, in 4 separate containers. When I divide the colony, I'll base the division on weight, an equal amount of weight in roaches into each colony. I'll then take 1 of the 4 colonies and maintain it as a control colony; running it under the same feeding conditions as I do now. The other colonies will be fed different gelatin recipe formulas. I'll then clean and weigh each colony every 2 months. Based on the weight of each colony over time, I can then establish whether the colonies are growing at the same rate (meaning that the food recipe is having no impact compared to my current conditions), or whether one is out performing the other in growth. Compared to my Control Colony: higher weights mean better growth and more breeding, while lower weights mean that I'm actually hurting the colonies with my food recipes.

At present I can purchase 9 pounds of feed ingredients for $15.00. Then once I've finished experimenting and developed a recipe formula, I'll reduce costs by 70% by purchasing my ingredients in bulk. I currently have student aides that grind up my raw material feed ingredients and following the Thanksgiving break, we're now working on how much water and how much mixture is needed to form a uniform gelatin block.

I'll feed a recipe for 2 months, then clean the colony and collect data by weighing the growth of my control colony against my experimental colonies, I should be able to determine if my formulations are better and more nutritious, as compared to what I'm feeding right now.

After 2 months, I collect weight data on each colony, then develop a new set of recipes to test over the next 2 months. In a year I should be done...I should reach a point where I'm happy and content with my results and I'll have a final recipe.

 

[octanejunkie]

@Colorado Ts
Your gel idea sounds interesting but it already kind of exists. I use Repashy SuperLoad dry powder and make 1 tablespoon gel cubes. Store them in the freezer and defrost as needed in the fridge then chip and feed as you describe.

Here is a link

Amazon.com : Repashy SuperLoad 12 Oz (3/4 lb) 340g JAR : Pet Supplies

Amazon.com : Repashy SuperLoad 12 Oz (3/4 lb) 340g JAR : Pet Supplies

www.amazon.com

I share your experience with oranges, humidity and temperature range. Those three components seem to be critical for a successful colony in the addition of good proteins and available, clean water source

 

[Colorado Ts]

I can buy Repashy.....or I can make my own formulation for 1/4th the price.

I'd rather save money.

 

[DOS1392]

How can you tell what is male and whats female with dubias? Im confused haha

 

[octanejunkie]

I can buy Repashy.....or I can make my own formulation for 1/4th the price.

I'd rather save money.

You also have "student labor" to grind bulk ingredients, a luxury most of us don't.
Interested to see your results!