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LC72uk

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Lol, I aint messin with hot snakes! I think it was a western, the eastern db are rare around these parts, iirc. The texas coral was actually the only one ive ever seen in person. We've also got copperheads, which are beautiful(and responsible for the last two bites that came into the ER at work) and water moccasins that are too aggresive for their own good..
It`s easy Mass just take you`re thumb and 2nd finger and grab behind the back of the head and using you`re index finger place that on the head of the snake to pin down, make sure you have a firm grip Vipers can side bite, don`t want you getting bitten:D.
All my Vipers are pretty chilled out, The Copperhead being the most laid back viper I have ever dealt with and as for Moccasins don`t do much for me very messy snakes , they stink in captivity due to them being fish eaters. From what I can gather in the US they tend not to use the antivenom for Copperhead bites unless it`s absolutely necessary, from what I have been reading a lot of people ride the bite out , in some cases the antivenom can do more harm than the venom itself , Anaphylaxis being the main culprit.
I had a Copperhead bite explained to me on how it feels, this is what I was told. If bitten on hand.

1 Place hand in Boiling Water for 7 -10 days.
2 Removing hand every so often from boiling water to smash it with the biggest hammer you can find.

Sound like a Copperhead bite to you Mass:)
 

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It`s easy Mass just take you`re thumb and 2nd finger and grab behind the back of the head and using you`re index finger place that on the head of the snake to pin down, make sure you have a firm grip Vipers can side bite, don`t want you getting bitten:D.
All my Vipers are pretty chilled out, The Copperhead being the most laid back viper I have ever dealt with and as for Moccasins don`t do much for me very messy snakes , they stink in captivity due to them being fish eaters. From what I can gather in the US they tend not to use the antivenom for Copperhead bites unless it`s absolutely necessary, from what I have been reading a lot of people ride the bite out , in some cases the antivenom can do more harm than the venom itself , Anaphylaxis being the main culprit.
I had a Copperhead bite explained to me on how it feels, this is what I was told. If bitten on hand.

1 Place hand in Boiling Water for 7 -10 days.
2 Removing hand every so often from boiling water to smash it with the biggest hammer you can find.

Sound like a Copperhead bite to you Mass:)
Rofl
 

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Just do a hognose snake and be happy.
I want a hognose snake so bad. I rescued a Mohave Rattlesnake when i lived in Nevada. I was walking down a bike path behind my apartment and i saw a group of kids throwing sticks and rocks at something. As i got closer i could see it was a snake. I yelled at the kids and scared them off and realized it was a mobave rattler. it didnt seem to be to hurt. It had a small gash in its side so i pinned its head with a stick and picked it up from behind the head. I had my girlfriend run home to grab a pillowcase and when she returned i put the snake in it. I called an animal resue place that said they would relocate it and so they came out. They were to scared to take the snake out of the pillowcase so they took my pillowcase. The snake was relocated and i was 1 pillowcase short.
 

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I actually researched hognose snakes pretty heavily awhile back, reptiles have been on my mind for quite some time. I like snakes, but lizards just appeal to me more. After talking to Tom and LC, I started looking at different lizards. After one day of research, I've become obsessed with skinks and ackies monitors and Mexican crocodile lizards. I'm truly screwed. Should be fun times ahead.
 

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I actually researched hognose snakes pretty heavily awhile back, reptiles have been on my mind for quite some time. I like snakes, but lizards just appeal to me more. After talking to Tom and LC, I started looking at different lizards. After one day of research, I've become obsessed with skinks and ackies monitors and Mexican crocodile lizards. I'm truly screwed. Should be fun times ahead.
Ive always had a fascination with reptiles and amphibians. I had a 5 stripe skink as a kid. they're pretty cool. I used to catch horny toads, the western fence lizard (also known as the blue belly), and snakes as a kid. I also found tarantulas fascinating but my fear of spiders always outweighed the fascination. Until now that is.
 

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am hoping to be getting a Prairie Rattler around October time.

Whoa. Prairies are hot snakes. And I'm just talking about their personality, not their venom. Watch out for that one. I handle rattle snakes for a living, but those prairies are in a league of their own.

I made a friend in Germany that was dying to get one of our common local all black Southern Pacifics, helleri. Got any of those over there?

Found this little gem in the middle of the road on Catalina Island two weeks ago. Have you heard about the toxicity of the Catalina Island rattlers?
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Ive always had a fascination with reptiles and amphibians. I had a 5 stripe skink as a kid. they're pretty cool. I used to catch horny toads, the western fence lizard (also known as the blue belly), and snakes as a kid. I also found tarantulas fascinating but my fear of spiders always outweighed the fascination. Until now that is.
I remember horny toads being EVERYWHERE as a kid. Really cool little lizards. Its sad that they're dying out. Ive only seen one in the past 20 yrs..
 

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I remember horny toads being EVERYWHERE as a kid. Really cool little lizards. Its sad that they're dying out. Ive only seen one in the past 20 yrs..
I find pockets of them very rarely. When I do, there are lots of them in a small area and they seem to be doing okay, but yes, overall I hardly ever see them anymore. I never tell anyone where I find them.
 

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I find pockets of them very rarely. When I do, there are lots of them in a small area and they seem to be doing okay, but yes, overall I hardly ever see them anymore. I never tell anyone where I find them.
I wish I could find a pocket of them on my land. No chance with all the cats and other predators around here though. I do see house geckos and I believe some kind of anoles, fast green ones.
 

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Whoa. Prairies are hot snakes. And I'm just talking about their personality, not their venom. Watch out for that one. I handle rattle snakes for a living, but those prairies are in a league of their own.

I made a friend in Germany that was dying to get one of our common local all black Southern Pacifics, helleri. Got any of those over there?

Found this little gem in the middle of the road on Catalina Island two weeks ago. Have you heard about the toxicity of the Catalina Island rattlers?
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Very nice, My Address is........., lol.
Crotalus catalinensis have a weak venom compared to other Rattlesnake species, Southern`s as you know have a nasty venom, I used to help out in a Reptile shop I was called in when ever a Hot delivery arrived I was the one that had to unpack and check the snakes over , we had a large female Southern P on display and she was a nightmare, super aggressive.
I was looking into getting another WDB but they are a bit on the large size for me to deal with now. A friend on mine has at least 8 species of Rattlesnake which are breeding pairs so that`s where my C viridis will be coming from. He also breeds Mambas , Fer - De Lance`s, Golden lance heads. He has a huge collection of the most toxic snakes found on this planet.
Along with the C viridis I am also picking up a Cape Coral Cobra and a European long nosed viper and a friend of mine is going over to Germany for the Hamburg show and picking me up a Rhino Viper (Bitis nasicornis):D:D:D.

Here`s some details on the Crotalus catalinensis tox report

http://www.toxinology.com/fusebox.cfm?fuseaction=main.snakes.display&id=SN0421
 

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I remember horny toads being EVERYWHERE as a kid. Really cool little lizards. Its sad that they're dying out. Ive only seen one in the past 20 yrs..
This was the very first exotic species of Lizard I ever saw when I was 10 years old, this was the guy that got me interested in Reptiles and took me on my first Viper hunt, he had a pair of Toads.
I have never seen them since 1981, being predominantly Ant feeders they are difficult to keep in captivity I should imagine. I always wanted one though.
 

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Very nice, My Address is........., lol.
Crotalus catalinensis have a weak venom compared to other Rattlesnake species, Southern`s as you know have a nasty venom, I used to help out in a Reptile shop I was called in when ever a Hot delivery arrived I was the one that had to unpack and check the snakes over , we had a large female Southern P on display and she was a nightmare, super aggressive.
I was looking into getting another WDB but they are a bit on the large size for me to deal with now. A friend on mine has at least 8 species of Rattlesnake which are breeding pairs so that`s where my C viridis will be coming from. He also breeds Mambas , Fer - De Lance`s, Golden lance heads. He has a huge collection of the most toxic snakes found on this planet.
Along with the C viridis I am also picking up a Cape Coral Cobra and a European long nosed viper and a friend of mine is going over to Germany for the Hamburg show and picking me up a Rhino Viper (Bitis nasicornis):D:D:D.

Here`s some details on the Crotalus catalinensis tox report

http://www.toxinology.com/fusebox.cfm?fuseaction=main.snakes.display&id=SN0421
Jesus Christ..
 

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Very nice, My Address is........., lol.
Crotalus catalinensis have a weak venom compared to other Rattlesnake species, Southern`s as you know have a nasty venom, I used to help out in a Reptile shop I was called in when ever a Hot delivery arrived I was the one that had to unpack and check the snakes over , we had a large female Southern P on display and she was a nightmare, super aggressive.
I was looking into getting another WDB but they are a bit on the large size for me to deal with now. A friend on mine has at least 8 species of Rattlesnake which are breeding pairs so that`s where my C viridis will be coming from. He also breeds Mambas , Fer - De Lance`s, Golden lance heads. He has a huge collection of the most toxic snakes found on this planet.
Along with the C viridis I am also picking up a Cape Coral Cobra and a European long nosed viper and a friend of mine is going over to Germany for the Hamburg show and picking me up a Rhino Viper (Bitis nasicornis):D:D:D.

Here`s some details on the Crotalus catalinensis tox report

http://www.toxinology.com/fusebox.cfm?fuseaction=main.snakes.display&id=SN0421
Interesting. Your info on the Catalina rattlesnake differs with what I've been told by all the herpers in this area who handle them and other species. One guy says if you get bit by a Catalina rattler, it won't kill you, but you'll be a veggie the rest of your life. Our local helleri would not be fun to be bitten by, but it won't turn you into a vegetable. Having never been bitten by either, I really can't argue one way or the other.

The main species I encounter and handle are Southern Pacifics. I've literally been chased by them. I figured they were just moving in one direction or another and as I kept zig zagging to get off line, I quickly realized that damn thing was following and trying to get me. I've had other ones literally launch their entire bodies into the air while striking at me. I would never have believed it had I not seen it. So much for that "safe" striking distance. I've not handled prairies, but I'm told they are much more aggressive than helleri. Helleri will also usually tame down over time and with handling. Several friends do dog training clinics for snake avoidance, and they say that after a while the helleri tame down and stop striking, while the prairies never calm down.
 

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Rofl, imo both of you are fkn crazy. I like it. I've been told I'm crazy on a motorcycle, and I'm going to die on one. I laugh at people and tell them I ride to live, not to die. When you ride, everything is sharp, the smells, sights, everything. Is that why you mess with hot snakes? To live in the world, rather than just live? I'm curious. Is it adrenaline, or what? My choices of pets is reliant on other folks and pets in my household, I don't have the freedom of choice tbh..I love my family and pets, and a few friends/girlfriends I know. I won't put them out, or endanger them knowingly. Do you guys live alone? Do you keep your hot snakes isolated from family? I'm asking because I don't fear for myself as much as I fear for others. And because I'm being drawn to reptiles, and the more y'all talk about hot snakes, the more I'm becoming interested. I could find some very easily. ☺
 
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