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Is P bara considered banned for interstate sales?

Discussion in 'Poecilotheria' started by Whitelightning777, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. Whitelightning777

    Whitelightning777 Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    P subfusca is one of the banned ones by fish and wildlife but I don't understand if P bara is considered the same thing or if it's still A-ok to obtain.
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    MassExodus Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Isn't bara the name subfusca replaced? I thought they were the same spider..? I could be wrong, I'm not a poeci guy..
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    PanzoN88 Well-Known Member

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    @Thistles I think your expertise is needed here.
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    Whitelightning777 Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    That's the thing. Is one the lowland form and the other the highland form?

    Are these forms morphs of one species or 2 separate but closely related species?
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    Arachnoclown Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Arachnoclown Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    It's still a big debate though...kinda like the Avicularia avicularia morph mess.
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    sdsnybny Well-Known Member

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    Both forms are banned....still considered one species, its covered in the paper.
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    I still believe in A metallica.
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    Thistles Well-Known Member 3 Year Member

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    Yes, this is correct.

    Poecilotheria bara was renamed Poecilotheria subfusca, and highland and lowland are considered the same species. In order to differentiate the two forms, hobbyists have taken to using bara for one form and subfusca for the other, but bara is no longer a valid name. All bara are subfusca.
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    MassExodus Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Hey Thistles! Haven't seen you around in awhile.
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    Thistles Well-Known Member 3 Year Member

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    I've got like 700 mud crabs to care for and run benign experiments on before I cruelly infect them with a castrating barnacle parasite and run yet more experiments.

    I'm really busy :( Just poke my head in when I get an alert or something. Hope everyone is doing well!

    At least the crabs are really cute!
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    Phil Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    like @MassExodus says, good to see you back....crabs n all...LOL
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    Thistles Well-Known Member 3 Year Member

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    Thanks, Phil. Take care of yourself and your genic!
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    Phil Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    I will do :). There was a pic of her recently in the gallery if you get chance to check her out. Take care Hun. nice to see you here again. I was away for a while too and back here feels like home already.
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    Whitelightning777 Well-Known Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Got to get pokie at some point!!

    P Striata Patrick being awesome 1.jpg

    P striata is a very calm pokie, great first one.
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