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<blockquote data-quote="Dustin Amack" data-source="post: 129836" data-attributes="member: 27342"><p>At times it seems like the more I research, the more confused I become <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. I have been searching for a male "A.urticans" and want to be sure to get an appropriate male to potentially pair with my female. I was not so nicely put in my place by someone on the other forum for using the name A. urticans, which is common over there... I have read that in 2017 A. urticans and A. jureunsis came into synonymy. My issue lies in the images of what are referred to as A. juruensis, or the "yellow banded pink toe". My adult female most definitely does not posses yellow bands on her legs as most pics would suggest this species has. The setae on the abdomen seems to be similar with the reddish/purple coloration, but that's really about it. A majority of A. juruensis seem to be a much deeper purple color as well. Are their variations or morphs within the A. juruensis? I'm sure their are morphs as I have found at least 2 so far... Here is an image of a specimen that looks very similar to mine, however, mine is easily 6.5". Note no visible yellow banding found on the legs. </p><p> <img src="https://fearnottarantulas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/avicularia-sp-Peru-purple.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>Here is what is listed in many places as an Avicularia Juruensis... Light yellowish banding on legs and it seems to be even brighter in younger specimens. This picture doesn't show the banding like many others however, I also wonder if some are confusing A. rufa for this as well... Different discussion <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Avicularia_juruensis_female_morphotype_2_ZK120.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>So here's a question... am I making this more difficult that in truly needs to be. Are these now completely synonymous and the same? Is it possible that the older the T gets the less it has yellow banding of any kind. I purchased my female as an adult and never saw it in juvi stages. I really appreciate any advice on this, and I am grateful for anyone who helps me understand this taxonomy change <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dustin Amack, post: 129836, member: 27342"] At times it seems like the more I research, the more confused I become :). I have been searching for a male "A.urticans" and want to be sure to get an appropriate male to potentially pair with my female. I was not so nicely put in my place by someone on the other forum for using the name A. urticans, which is common over there... I have read that in 2017 A. urticans and A. jureunsis came into synonymy. My issue lies in the images of what are referred to as A. juruensis, or the "yellow banded pink toe". My adult female most definitely does not posses yellow bands on her legs as most pics would suggest this species has. The setae on the abdomen seems to be similar with the reddish/purple coloration, but that's really about it. A majority of A. juruensis seem to be a much deeper purple color as well. Are their variations or morphs within the A. juruensis? I'm sure their are morphs as I have found at least 2 so far... Here is an image of a specimen that looks very similar to mine, however, mine is easily 6.5". Note no visible yellow banding found on the legs. [IMG]https://fearnottarantulas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/avicularia-sp-Peru-purple.jpg[/IMG] Here is what is listed in many places as an Avicularia Juruensis... Light yellowish banding on legs and it seems to be even brighter in younger specimens. This picture doesn't show the banding like many others however, I also wonder if some are confusing A. rufa for this as well... Different discussion ;) [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Avicularia_juruensis_female_morphotype_2_ZK120.jpg[/IMG] So here's a question... am I making this more difficult that in truly needs to be. Are these now completely synonymous and the same? Is it possible that the older the T gets the less it has yellow banding of any kind. I purchased my female as an adult and never saw it in juvi stages. I really appreciate any advice on this, and I am grateful for anyone who helps me understand this taxonomy change :) [/QUOTE]
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