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<blockquote data-quote="Nicolas C" data-source="post: 113895" data-attributes="member: 3795"><p>I tried a communal with Poecilotheria subfusca (i.e. lowland i.e. sp. bara...) in August 2015. I kept ten slings from the same sack together in a deli cup. I rehoused them a first time: no losses. Then a second time in the final enclosure: my goal was to avoid a maximum the rehousings, because it's critical for them (as they have to adapt to a new environment, there are some possibilities it goes wrong and they eat each other). Final enclosure was with just one tube of cork bark and substrate. I didn't want to give them a lot of hides, because of my fear they might create some kind of clans - gangs - territories and might kill the ones from another territory. One hide means only one territory. If they keep close to one another, the risks they might fight are less obvious. Well, that was what I thought. Still, no losses noticed when I rehoused them in their final enclosure.</p><p></p><p>However, the problem was: even with only one hide, not every individuals went into this hide. Some of them stayed outside and built a burrow underground... From this point, as they were hidden most of the time, I was not able to tell how many individuals out of the first ten were still alive. I was only able to tell there was several groups.</p><p></p><p>On September 2016, I took out a mature male. On December 2016, I took out a dead female (she wasn't eaten or even wounded, as far as I could notice, just dead...). I began to notice fights between the remaining ones...</p><p></p><p>I took out and gave one more mature male and a female to one friend early 2017. Then I decided to rehouse, as the enclosure was very (very!) dirty. That's when I realized that there was only one FAT female left! Which means: 5 P subfusca were MIA.</p><p></p><p>My temps have stood stable. I always gave enough food (= ten crickets a week) to avoid fights. And since august 2016, I noticed there was always some uneaten crickets left, which meant the spiders were not starving.</p><p></p><p>For me, this experience was not a success. The communal was okay until my ts went bigger, and that's when they began to fight and kill each other. I don't know if I did something wrong, or if they have difficulties to adapt living together in captivity. Anyway, I don't think I'll try that again soon.</p><p></p><p>That being said, there is another experience told in this excellent book, and the experience was a success (with P rufilata):</p><p>TARANTULAS - BREEDING EXPERIENCE & WILDLIFE by Cleton, F., Sigwalt, Y.,Verdez, J. M. (2016)</p><p></p><p>Keep us informed how it goes for you, it's interesting to share experiences!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nicolas C, post: 113895, member: 3795"] I tried a communal with Poecilotheria subfusca (i.e. lowland i.e. sp. bara...) in August 2015. I kept ten slings from the same sack together in a deli cup. I rehoused them a first time: no losses. Then a second time in the final enclosure: my goal was to avoid a maximum the rehousings, because it's critical for them (as they have to adapt to a new environment, there are some possibilities it goes wrong and they eat each other). Final enclosure was with just one tube of cork bark and substrate. I didn't want to give them a lot of hides, because of my fear they might create some kind of clans - gangs - territories and might kill the ones from another territory. One hide means only one territory. If they keep close to one another, the risks they might fight are less obvious. Well, that was what I thought. Still, no losses noticed when I rehoused them in their final enclosure. However, the problem was: even with only one hide, not every individuals went into this hide. Some of them stayed outside and built a burrow underground... From this point, as they were hidden most of the time, I was not able to tell how many individuals out of the first ten were still alive. I was only able to tell there was several groups. On September 2016, I took out a mature male. On December 2016, I took out a dead female (she wasn't eaten or even wounded, as far as I could notice, just dead...). I began to notice fights between the remaining ones... I took out and gave one more mature male and a female to one friend early 2017. Then I decided to rehouse, as the enclosure was very (very!) dirty. That's when I realized that there was only one FAT female left! Which means: 5 P subfusca were MIA. My temps have stood stable. I always gave enough food (= ten crickets a week) to avoid fights. And since august 2016, I noticed there was always some uneaten crickets left, which meant the spiders were not starving. For me, this experience was not a success. The communal was okay until my ts went bigger, and that's when they began to fight and kill each other. I don't know if I did something wrong, or if they have difficulties to adapt living together in captivity. Anyway, I don't think I'll try that again soon. That being said, there is another experience told in this excellent book, and the experience was a success (with P rufilata): TARANTULAS - BREEDING EXPERIENCE & WILDLIFE by Cleton, F., Sigwalt, Y.,Verdez, J. M. (2016) Keep us informed how it goes for you, it's interesting to share experiences! [/QUOTE]
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