Caribena versicolor died again

[cancer69]

Guys my baby sling died again! Why!??

 

[Ratmosphere]

How big was it? Did you provide cross ventilation? Was the substrate damp or dry?

I provide all of my Caribena versicolor slings with tons of cross ventilation and a water dish with dry substrate. Haven't had a death ever keeping them this way.

 

[cancer69]

Yes cross ventilation. Water dish. Dry substrate. So I don't know why it died.

 

[AndrewClayton]

Yes cross ventilation. Water dish. Dry substrate. So I don't know why it died.

Can you post pics of the setup you were using this will help find the issue.

 

[AndrewClayton]

How big was it? Did you provide cross ventilation? Was the substrate damp or dry?

I provide all of my Caribena versicolor slings with tons of cross ventilation and a water dish with dry substrate. Haven't had a death ever keeping them this way.

Remember this

I need to get a video of the avic I have in it, it will come straight to the water dish when filling for a drink, it's like a little puppy haha.
Credit to you for the inspiration @Ratmosphere

 

[Ratmosphere]

Do you know what instar/size it was? Sometimes second instar slings don't pull through for whatever reason.

What are the temps like in your home?

I agree with Andrew, post a pic of the setup so we can better assist.

 

[cancer69]

Here is my set up

 

[Ratmosphere]

Is there any chemical smell from that cut PVC pipe? What are your temps in the house?

 

[AndrewClayton]

Here is my set up

Looks very minimal top ventilation all seems to be at the sides, I don't think that killed it but could be a factor in it. I think that enclosure is more suited to a terrestrial/fossorial T, ventilation with Avics you want down low and up high to create the flow of air.

 

[cancer69]

Looks very minimal top ventilation all seems to be at the sides, I don't think that killed it but could be a factor in it. I think that enclosure is more suited to a terrestrial/fossorial T, ventilation with Avics you want down low and up high to create the flow of air.

Okay ill look for a better enclosure next time. This is my favorite trantula. I've killed 4 slings already.

 

[Ratmosphere]

In my experience, air holes at the top doesn’t really matter. It seems like you have everything set up to how I would.

If you can answer about the water dish scent, if there is any chemical smell and what you keep the temps at in your house I think we might get closer to an answer.

 

[cancer69]

In my experience, air holes at the top doesn’t really matter. It seems like you have everything set up to how I would.

If you can answer about the water dish scent, if there is any chemical smell and what you keep the temps at in your house I think we might get closer to an answer.

No chemicals. At all. It stays warm. I live in alaska so always have heat up.

 

[Ratmosphere]

Honestly not sure then.

 

[AndrewClayton]

In Scotland we have a very high humidity the majority of the time, it's 91% right now I think that's the reason I've had success without a water dish with Avics (definitely not recommended) but I find it's proper Ventilation that's the key to raising these in this climate, not sure how humid Alaska is but we are roughly the same longitude.
I'd maybe try getting something a bit bigger next time slings that small are fragile and can react badly to the slightest things. After raising something a bit bigger that's more forgiving then go back and try the slings that's all I can think of.

 

[Ratmosphere]

Caribena versicolor: How to create an enclosure for slings.

Before I start, I need to say that this is the method that works best for me when keeping half inch slings. I see so many new people on this thread ask "How do I set up an enclosure for a Caribena versicolor sling?" Hopefully this will help. What you will need: A drill, a 1/16" drill bit, clear...

arachnoboards.com

Here is one of my guides.

 

[Evilme]

I’m so sorry to hear about your Caribena. So I have been a big fan of these enclosures for my arboreals. They have two sizes, the smaller for slings. I have all my avics and caribenas in them and they are doing well. Switch up your enclosure. I have mine out and open, nothing restricting airflow. This is my spare room and I have attached some of the enclosures that work well. More height in my opinion is needed. The link below allows you top and center access. Gives me T crib vibes. I have attached other arboreal enclosures here that can work too. If you like one I can dig through my Amazon to see what brand it was. I hope this helps! But it gives you some examples of setups too!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D6NF5VWF?tag=exoticpetnetw-20

 

[Avicula]

Here is my set up

I know I'm late, but I think your sling died of dehydration, that enclosure looks bone dry, a water dish on the ground on the opposite side of the enclosure for an arboreal sling

I recommend a taller enclosure, ceramic media for substrate, a gazilion holes all over the place and spaing a bit every other night! they drink from the web and foliage. High ventilation, high humidity and high temps(26-28 C). also feed a lot, diverse prey, remove in the morning if uneaten.

 

[Gizalba]

I know I'm late, but I think your sling died of dehydration, that enclosure looks bone dry, a water dish on the ground on the opposite side of the enclosure for an arboreal sling

I recommend a taller enclosure, ceramic media for substrate, a gazilion holes all over the place and spaing a bit every other night! they drink from the web and foliage. High ventilation, high humidity and high temps(26-28 C). also feed a lot, diverse prey, remove in the morning if uneaten.

You say 'high ventilation, high humidity' but I thought the high humidity was big NO NO in avic care now, after it killed so many early on in the hobby? I think in the wild they do have high humidity but my understanding was that we can't replicate those conditions, high up in the tree with wind etc, so the whole 'high cross ventilation, dry enclosure with a water dish' advice is the consensus care?

Yes cross ventilation. Water dish. Dry substrate. So I don't know why it died.

I am also confused as I too had 2 c. versicolor slings die when I think I followed all the up to date advice so I have never got another one until I figure out why. I will have to dig out pics of the set-up but I followed Tom Moran's advice and tried to build one exactly like his one for avic/versicolor slings. I did also dribble some water with a pipette on the web every now and again in case they wanted to drink that way, but was very wary of putting too much damp in. Their water dish was on the ground too though so maybe that is the problem?

I also have a Ybyrapora diversipes I have raised from a baby exactly the same (now a sub-adult) and she has been fine for some reason, even though I read that they are even more fragile than avics.

 

[Avicula]

Please take a trip to the Martinique island and see for yourself how humid it is and how often does rain.

The SAD syndrome can be attributed to small containers with poor air circulation and organic substrate which decomposes if wet. Small spiderlings are fragile and can desiccate easily, also they can become sick with fungi, we can prevent that with substrate which does not rot, air movement in the room and terrariums, slight misting on the walls and a small amount of moisture in the substrate. Also is a little hands on with parameters until they put a little bit of size. Don't be discouraged, C versicolor are very rewarding, learn as much as you can about their natural habitat: temperature, humidity, air movement. Best of luck
This is my little girl, Flora

 

[Avicula]

Flora