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Dustin Hester

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A few days ago I got a blue baboon and was wondering if there is anything I should know. I know they love to dig, but he is just sitting in the top corner of the glass. The substrate is coco fibre and vermiculite. I'm worried that he won't come down. He is only 1.5".
 

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You are referring to M.balfouri, right?

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Thanks. Maybe the substrate isn't solid enough to burrow
I keep my Balfouri with a mixture of peat and coco fibre, I don't use vermiculite even in small amounts. Basically a pet hole so while you sort substrate out make the most of being able to see her/him......lol. Welcome to the forum too, as you can see, everyone willing to help. ☺ Do you have a pic of the Balfouri, @Casey K. Has posted a great pic of a lovely pair she has.
 

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I keep my Balfouri with a mixture of peat and coco fibre, I don't use vermiculite even in small amounts. Basically a pet hole so while you sort substrate out make the most of being able to see her/him......lol. Welcome to the forum too, as you can see, everyone willing to help. ☺ Do you have a pic of the Balfouri, @Casey K. Has posted a great pic of a lovely pair she has.
I will try to get a picture when it is active Tonight. And why not use vermiculite?
 

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I never used vermiculite for Ts as I was always worried about the dust that comes off it. I just use coco fibre.

There has always been a big debate over it's use. Lots of people swear by it and lots of others say that their tarantulas hate it. I have never used it myself, as I have never had anyone needing that type of water retention, but I can understand why people avoid it.
It's too bad because it really does do a good job of retaining moisture.
 

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@VanessaS I used to use it as an incubating medium for hatching snakes and they came out plastered in dust so I would worry about it clogging up a Ts book lungs
 

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I never used vermiculite for Ts as I was always worried about the dust that comes off it. I just use coco fibre.
I think I will change the substrate to coco fibre. And is it only coco fibre you use or is it a mix? I need something that it can burrow in.
 

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Is it able to bu
I keep my Balfouri with a mixture of peat and coco fibre, I don't use vermiculite even in small amounts. Basically a pet hole so while you sort substrate out make the most of being able to see her/him......lol. Welcome to the forum too, as you can see, everyone willing to help. ☺ Do you have a pic of the Balfouri, @Casey K. Has posted a great pic of a lovely pair she has.
Is it able to burrow well in that mixture?
 

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There has always been a big debate over it's use. Lots of people swear by it and lots of others say that their tarantulas hate it. I have never used it myself, as I have never had anyone needing that type of water retention, but I can understand why people avoid it.
It's too bad because it really does do a good job of retaining moisture.
Used to be lots of people used just vermiculite as the substrate. My ex had a rosea that lived on it for years.
 

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I will try to get a picture when it is active Tonight. And why not use vermiculite?

Here's that pic you sent a while ago. So tiny compared to everything!
 

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Is it able to bu

Is it able to burrow well in that mixture?
Yes, too well......never see it now....lol plus they use web too. My mix is probably 2 thirds peat (if you can get it) and one third coconut fibre. The peat is usually naturally moist especially when compared to the coconut fibre which is very dry unless you dampen it. Have used coco fibre only on many tanks too with no problems. I have been in the hobby 20+ yes and vermiculite was meant to be the saviour of everything at one point. Yes it is sterile, lyes it is light, yess it retains moisture, yes as @Enn49 said it is dusty and what I found was that my Ts preferred to sit on the glass walls rather than the floor and did not burrow. One thing vermiculite is not, and this is the biggedt kicker IMHO, it is not a natural materiall. Peat, cocoa fibre, potting soil etc is, which is why I have gone back to peat and coco fibre only.....probably for the last 8 years now.
 

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I never used vermiculite for Ts as I was always worried about the dust that comes off it. I just use coco fibre.
Dont know whether you have come across them or not but a company called fertile fibre sells coco fibre in sacks already shredded and delivers etc. Very cheap. Can get a big sack for the price some stores charge for a couple of compressed bricks! For others watching this thread. This is a UK based company and I don't think they ship anywhere else.
 

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I think I will change the substrate to coco fibre. And is it only coco fibre you use or is it a mix? I need something that it can burrow in.

Just coco fibre. Mine have had no problems burrowing in it, most Ts web their burrows to hold it together.
 

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I have two M. balfouri on coco fibre. While they are burrowed 90% of the time, the burrows really suck at holding structure and the Ts are constantly having to redo it. IMO coco fibre is a terrible substrate for terrestrial Ts that love to burrow, especially when dry (which is how you should be keeping M. balfouri). I've begun switching all my Ts to half potting soil (some local mix) and half coco-fibre, since I already have the stuff. The potting soil holds shape much better.
 

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