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Advice on OBT & sun tigers

Desie

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Am still pretty new to having tarantulas have 3 at the minute. It's my birthday at the week end and I have jst found out my sister has got me a sling bundle witch has a OBT and a sun tiger in with it.
Ang tips plz??
 

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I've never kept an OBT, but they are one of the quickest and defensive tarantulas, as the word on the street is. I'm sure others will be more help than I am though.
 

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I have both OBT and P. irminia. The OBT I got as a juvenile, my first ever T, so I have no experience of slings but my girl is rarely seen and more likely to run and hide than to attack. They are stunning and as long as you are aware of their reputation and treat with care using tongs/tweezers for maintenance I wouldn't worry too much. The P. irminia I had from a tiny sling and never had a problem. He sadly matured recently and because I know he's not got long to live, I have just bought another sling, hoping for a female this time so I'll have the pleasure of its company a bit longer. Both species are fast but both beautiful Ts.
 

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Container size depend on the size of the sling. Both of my P.irminias were tiny when I got them so I kept them in 1"dia vials, then at around 0.5" moved them to 3" cubes or deli containers. The mature male is now in an 8"x8"x12" terrarium.
 

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Don't expect to see your p irminia much. Not seen mine for a month and it's not even premoult.

As for your OBT, well, when people say they are fast, what they mean is that they can teleport.
 

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Super fast means: beware with fingers and as soon as you disturb her she'll hide (if she has a safe burrow). But you will be able to watch both of them. My P murinus (= OBT) is rather reclusive, only coming out after dark. But every morning I have an opportunity to see her. And my P irminia (= suntiger) is rather often out on her bark.

OBT care is one of the easiest: dry substrate with water dish, cork bark to dig under, some branches if you want her to web a beautiful design (yes, P murnius is a rather heavy webber), and voilà. The challenge is rehousing though. There are several methods to help with this, you can ask here when times come.

P irminia needs a vertical cork bark with enough substrate to dig a burrow inside/behind the bark and into the ground. She needs a little bit more moisture than P murinus, but is rather hardy too.

What makes them "advanced" spp. isn't the care, but their speed/venom. But if they have a good burrow, they will retreat inside most of the time (when not: schedule maintenance later...!). Once again: rehousing is a little bit tricky, but it all depends on your confidence and prudence.Be carefull and not frightened (is it possible?) and it's gonna be fine. None of them are deathly anyway (but the P murinus can send you in huge pain). Main point: if you take them, you are responsible for them, then do everything possible to give them good care! :)
 

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My advice? Dont get them. My mm P irminia was sent off. I don't even know what sex my obts are, because I never see them. I'll be getting rid of them too, probably. Female or not. You have to decide for yourself through your own experience though, whether or not you like burrowers and hiders. I don't. Hard to appreciate a creature you never see.
 

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Super fast then what you mean I won't ever see it does it Web up like mad

Yeah my P irminia webbed up a lot. I put two pieces of vertical cork bark next to each other with a small gap like a \ / shape looking down on it. It webbed up the gaps like mad using dirt too AND burrowed underneath it. I sometimes see legs poking out of the top.

Everyone is different though. Nicolas C's OBT is reclusive and his P irminia is often on display. Mine are the opposite :)
 

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My advice? Dont get them. My mm P irminia was sent off. I don't even know what sex my obts are, because I never see them. I'll be getting rid of them too, probably. Female or not. You have to decide for yourself through your own experience though, whether or not you like burrowers and hiders. I don't. Hard to appreciate a creature you never see.

He didn't choose them. His sister bought them for him as a birthday gift in a sling bundle or something.
 

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He doesn't have to keep them though. The fact that he didn't choose them is why I commented;)
Right, but the way you said it, it was like don't get them but since it's already been purchased (how I've been reading it), I think don't keep them might have been more appropiate, especially with your explanation. Idk, thats just me though haha.
 

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I have both that I raised from 3rd and 4th instar. My OBT is a female and she is ALWAYS out in the open- I have never once had her throw a threat pose at me, she will normally hide and then come back out when I am done, very easy to care for and I have re-homed her once without a single trouble. She is hands down one of the most docile and beautiful of my bunch.

My Sun tiger RA was also very easy to care for- she matured into a male in December and now spends his days walking around and showing off and making sperm web- I never had any issue with him even as a juvi- from time to time he would hide when going into pre molt but always came out for food and to get water drops when I would mist.

With what I have said above you should know I have owned and raised T's for the better part of 20 years- These are two T's I personally wouldn't have a newbie start with but you didn't purchase them so do yourself a favor and start reading up on them- lot's of info out there for both T's.

Good luck- I look forward to pictures
 

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I have both that I raised from 3rd and 4th instar. My OBT is a female and she is ALWAYS out in the open- I have never once had her throw a threat pose at me, she will normally hide and then come back out when I am done, very easy to care for and I have re-homed her once without a single trouble. She is hands down one of the most docile and beautiful of my bunch.

My Sun tiger RA was also very easy to care for- she matured into a male in December and now spends his days walking around and showing off and making sperm web- I never had any issue with him even as a juvi- from time to time he would hide when going into pre molt but always came out for food and to get water drops when I would mist.

With what I have said above you should know I have owned and raised T's for the better part of 20 years- These are two T's I personally wouldn't have a newbie start with but you didn't purchase them so do yourself a favor and start reading up on them- lot's of info out there for both T's.

Good luck- I look forward to pictures
What's happening Stace?! Long time no see!
 

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I'm not really a newbie either, but I wouldn't have an OBT. I just don't want the hassle. I am even worried about my L. difficilis.
The person who made this video should not be doing this with their spider, and it is seriously stressed out, but this will give you an idea of how quickly an OBT can move.
 

Desie

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Cheers for all the comments hopefully all goes well il get some pictures up soon as still very small for a good ones
 

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Right, but the way you said it, it was like don't get them but since it's already been purchased (how I've been reading it), I think don't keep them might have been more appropiate, especially with your explanation. Idk, thats just me though haha.
Ah, you're right. I should have worded it differently. Perhaps I was caught up in my own frustrations with reclusive spiders.
 

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