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<blockquote data-quote="Austin S." data-source="post: 175125" data-attributes="member: 5088"><p>I know of 5 or 6 vendors whom have sold T seladonia across the USA just this year. lol</p><p>I think that as long as everyone avoids Import/Exportation of them, then interstate sales are fine. </p><p></p><p>But it is crazy that when all this happened, and that they tried to make it stick, with only the argument that it falls under The Lacey Act, because they are Brazil Endemics. </p><p></p><p>Well... So are these... yet a ton of them are still selling on every major vendors lists, still (Brazilian Endemic species list, below)</p><p>. </p><p>Doesn't make sense to me. Everyone wants to do this the right, honorably, and the correct way, so we try to go by the guidebooks that USFW place for us. However, if they aren't even sure about the correct way, what do they expect us to do? Guess? </p><p></p><p>What I do for imports, is research every single species on our documents. If they are strictly Brazil endemics, they go off our list. If they are Brazil endemic, but are also found in partner countries surrounding Brazil, I locate legal exportation documents for that specific species, and include the permits within the import. </p><p>Example: (and this is based off of EXACTLY WHAT USFW TOLD ME)</p><p></p><p>Theraphosa blondi </p><p><strong>Distribution: </strong> Venezuela, Brazil, Guyana </p><p></p><p>Being that these are found in Brazil, I had to find documented proof, that this species was legally exported out of Guyana and into Germany, print that import paper work out, and include it in my import. That was the only way they would let me bring them in. </p><p>How silly huh.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for the rant. But I wanted to share a bit of information with everyone.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>THERAPHOSINAE THAT ARE ENDEMIC TO BRAZIL</p><p></p><p>- according to the World Spider Catalog, accepted species only</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria belterrensis</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria convexa</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria geniculata</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria gomesiana</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria juruenicola</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria natalensis</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria paulensis</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria proxima</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria rhodothele</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria tarda</p><p></p><p>* Acanthoscurria urens</p><p></p><p>* Ami caxiuana</p><p></p><p>* Avicularia caei</p><p></p><p>* Avicularia taunayi</p><p></p><p>* Bumba cabocla</p><p></p><p>* Bumba lennon</p><p></p><p>* Catanduba araguaia</p><p></p><p>* Catanduba canabrava</p><p></p><p>* Catanduba flavohirta</p><p></p><p>* Catanduba peruacu</p><p></p><p>* Catanduba piauiensis</p><p></p><p>* Catanduba simoni</p><p></p><p>* Catanduba tuskae</p><p></p><p>* Catumiri chicaoi</p><p></p><p>* Catumiri petropolium</p><p></p><p>* Cyclosternum bicolor</p><p></p><p>* Cyclosternum garbei</p><p></p><p>* Cyriocosmus bertae</p><p></p><p>* Cyriocosmus chicoi</p><p></p><p>* Cyriocosmus fasciatus</p><p></p><p>* Cyriocosmus fernandoi</p><p></p><p>* Cyriocosmus hoeferi</p><p></p><p>* Cyriocosmus nogueiranetoi</p><p></p><p>* Cyrtopholis meridionalis</p><p></p><p>* Cyrtopholis palmarum</p><p></p><p>* Cyrtopholis schmidti</p><p></p><p>* Cyrtopholis zorodes</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele auratum</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele diamantinensis</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele dominguense</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele exilis</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele mineirum</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele mottai</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele rufoniger</p><p></p><p>* Dolichothele tucuruiense</p><p></p><p>* Ephebopus uatuman</p><p></p><p>* Eupalaestrus spinosissimus</p><p></p><p>* Grammostola igeringi</p><p></p><p>* Grammostola pulchra</p><p></p><p>* Guyruita atlantica</p><p></p><p>* Guyruita cerrado</p><p></p><p>* Guyruita giupponii</p><p></p><p>* Guyruita isae</p><p></p><p>* Guyruita metallophila</p><p></p><p>* Hapalopus butantan</p><p></p><p>* Hapalopus serrapelada</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma brasilianum</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma familiare</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma hirsutum</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma humile</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma montanum</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma nigrum</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma stradlingi</p><p></p><p>* Homoeomma villosum</p><p></p><p>* Iridopelma hirsutum</p><p></p><p>* Iridopelma katiae</p><p></p><p>* Iridopelma marcoi</p><p></p><p>* Iridopelma oliveirai</p><p></p><p>* Iridopelma vanini</p><p></p><p>* Iridopelma zorodes</p><p></p><p>* Kochiana brunnipes</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora acanthognatha</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora benedeni</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora citharacantha</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora cristata</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora cryptostigma</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora curtior</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora differens</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora difficilis</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora dolichosterna</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora dulcicola</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora erythrocythara</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora fallax</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora fracta</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora isabellina</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora itabunae</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora klugi</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora lakoi</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora mariannae</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora pantherina</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora parahybana (was legally exported from Brazil many years ago, according to Frank Somma)</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora pleoplectra</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora spinipes</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora sternalis</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora striatipes</p><p></p><p>* Lasiodora subcanens</p><p></p><p>* Magulla brescoviti</p><p></p><p>* Magulla buecherli</p><p></p><p>* Magulla janeira</p><p></p><p>* Magulla obesa</p><p></p><p>* Megaphobema teceae</p><p></p><p>* Munduruku bicoloratum</p><p></p><p>* Nhandu cerradensis</p><p></p><p>* Nhandu chromatus</p><p></p><p>* Nhandu coloratovillosus</p><p></p><p>* Nhandu tripepii</p><p></p><p>* Pachistopelma bromelicola</p><p></p><p>* Pachistopelma rufonigrum</p><p></p><p>* Pamphobeteus crassifemur</p><p></p><p>* Pamphobeteus grandis</p><p></p><p>* Phormictopus brasiliensis</p><p></p><p>* Phormictopus ribeiroi</p><p></p><p>* Plesiopelma imperatrix</p><p></p><p>* Plesiopelma insulare</p><p></p><p>* Plesiopelma minense</p><p></p><p>* Plesiopelma physopus</p><p></p><p>* Plesiopelma rectimanum</p><p></p><p>* Proshapalopus amazonicus</p><p></p><p>* Proshapalopus anomalus</p><p></p><p>* Proshapalopus multicuspidatus</p><p></p><p>* Pterinopelma felipeleitei</p><p></p><p>* Pterinopelma sazimai</p><p></p><p>* Pterinopelma vitiosum</p><p></p><p>* Schismatothele benedettii</p><p></p><p>* Sericopelma fallax</p><p></p><p>* Sickius longibulbi</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes amadoi</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes bethaniae</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes caymmii</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes hypogeus</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes mirim</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes nubilus</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes perp</p><p></p><p>* Tmesiphantes riopretano</p><p></p><p>* Trichopelma flavicomum</p><p></p><p>* Trichopelma illetabile</p><p></p><p>* Typhochlaena amma</p><p></p><p>* Typhochlaena costae</p><p></p><p>* Typhochlaena curumim</p><p></p><p>* Typhochlaena paschoali</p><p></p><p>* Typhochlaena seladonia</p><p></p><p>* Vitalius buecherli</p><p></p><p>* Vitalius dubius</p><p></p><p>* Vitalius lucasae</p><p></p><p>* Vitalius nondescriptus</p><p></p><p>* Vitalius sorocabae</p><p></p><p>* Vitalius vellutinus</p><p></p><p>* Vitalius wacketi</p><p></p><p>* Ybyrapora diversipes</p><p></p><p>* Ybyrapora gamba</p><p></p><p>* Ybyrapora sooretama</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Austin S., post: 175125, member: 5088"] I know of 5 or 6 vendors whom have sold T seladonia across the USA just this year. lol I think that as long as everyone avoids Import/Exportation of them, then interstate sales are fine. But it is crazy that when all this happened, and that they tried to make it stick, with only the argument that it falls under The Lacey Act, because they are Brazil Endemics. Well... So are these... yet a ton of them are still selling on every major vendors lists, still (Brazilian Endemic species list, below) . Doesn't make sense to me. Everyone wants to do this the right, honorably, and the correct way, so we try to go by the guidebooks that USFW place for us. However, if they aren't even sure about the correct way, what do they expect us to do? Guess? What I do for imports, is research every single species on our documents. If they are strictly Brazil endemics, they go off our list. If they are Brazil endemic, but are also found in partner countries surrounding Brazil, I locate legal exportation documents for that specific species, and include the permits within the import. Example: (and this is based off of EXACTLY WHAT USFW TOLD ME) Theraphosa blondi [B]Distribution: [/B] Venezuela, Brazil, Guyana Being that these are found in Brazil, I had to find documented proof, that this species was legally exported out of Guyana and into Germany, print that import paper work out, and include it in my import. That was the only way they would let me bring them in. How silly huh. Sorry for the rant. But I wanted to share a bit of information with everyone. THERAPHOSINAE THAT ARE ENDEMIC TO BRAZIL - according to the World Spider Catalog, accepted species only * Acanthoscurria belterrensis * Acanthoscurria convexa * Acanthoscurria geniculata * Acanthoscurria gomesiana * Acanthoscurria juruenicola * Acanthoscurria natalensis * Acanthoscurria paulensis * Acanthoscurria proxima * Acanthoscurria rhodothele * Acanthoscurria tarda * Acanthoscurria urens * Ami caxiuana * Avicularia caei * Avicularia taunayi * Bumba cabocla * Bumba lennon * Catanduba araguaia * Catanduba canabrava * Catanduba flavohirta * Catanduba peruacu * Catanduba piauiensis * Catanduba simoni * Catanduba tuskae * Catumiri chicaoi * Catumiri petropolium * Cyclosternum bicolor * Cyclosternum garbei * Cyriocosmus bertae * Cyriocosmus chicoi * Cyriocosmus fasciatus * Cyriocosmus fernandoi * Cyriocosmus hoeferi * Cyriocosmus nogueiranetoi * Cyrtopholis meridionalis * Cyrtopholis palmarum * Cyrtopholis schmidti * Cyrtopholis zorodes * Dolichothele auratum * Dolichothele diamantinensis * Dolichothele dominguense * Dolichothele exilis * Dolichothele mineirum * Dolichothele mottai * Dolichothele rufoniger * Dolichothele tucuruiense * Ephebopus uatuman * Eupalaestrus spinosissimus * Grammostola igeringi * Grammostola pulchra * Guyruita atlantica * Guyruita cerrado * Guyruita giupponii * Guyruita isae * Guyruita metallophila * Hapalopus butantan * Hapalopus serrapelada * Homoeomma brasilianum * Homoeomma familiare * Homoeomma hirsutum * Homoeomma humile * Homoeomma montanum * Homoeomma nigrum * Homoeomma stradlingi * Homoeomma villosum * Iridopelma hirsutum * Iridopelma katiae * Iridopelma marcoi * Iridopelma oliveirai * Iridopelma vanini * Iridopelma zorodes * Kochiana brunnipes * Lasiodora acanthognatha * Lasiodora benedeni * Lasiodora citharacantha * Lasiodora cristata * Lasiodora cryptostigma * Lasiodora curtior * Lasiodora differens * Lasiodora difficilis * Lasiodora dolichosterna * Lasiodora dulcicola * Lasiodora erythrocythara * Lasiodora fallax * Lasiodora fracta * Lasiodora isabellina * Lasiodora itabunae * Lasiodora klugi * Lasiodora lakoi * Lasiodora mariannae * Lasiodora pantherina * Lasiodora parahybana (was legally exported from Brazil many years ago, according to Frank Somma) * Lasiodora pleoplectra * Lasiodora spinipes * Lasiodora sternalis * Lasiodora striatipes * Lasiodora subcanens * Magulla brescoviti * Magulla buecherli * Magulla janeira * Magulla obesa * Megaphobema teceae * Munduruku bicoloratum * Nhandu cerradensis * Nhandu chromatus * Nhandu coloratovillosus * Nhandu tripepii * Pachistopelma bromelicola * Pachistopelma rufonigrum * Pamphobeteus crassifemur * Pamphobeteus grandis * Phormictopus brasiliensis * Phormictopus ribeiroi * Plesiopelma imperatrix * Plesiopelma insulare * Plesiopelma minense * Plesiopelma physopus * Plesiopelma rectimanum * Proshapalopus amazonicus * Proshapalopus anomalus * Proshapalopus multicuspidatus * Pterinopelma felipeleitei * Pterinopelma sazimai * Pterinopelma vitiosum * Schismatothele benedettii * Sericopelma fallax * Sickius longibulbi * Tmesiphantes amadoi * Tmesiphantes bethaniae * Tmesiphantes caymmii * Tmesiphantes hypogeus * Tmesiphantes mirim * Tmesiphantes nubilus * Tmesiphantes perp * Tmesiphantes riopretano * Trichopelma flavicomum * Trichopelma illetabile * Typhochlaena amma * Typhochlaena costae * Typhochlaena curumim * Typhochlaena paschoali * Typhochlaena seladonia * Vitalius buecherli * Vitalius dubius * Vitalius lucasae * Vitalius nondescriptus * Vitalius sorocabae * Vitalius vellutinus * Vitalius wacketi * Ybyrapora diversipes * Ybyrapora gamba * Ybyrapora sooretama [/QUOTE]
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