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<blockquote data-quote="Martin Oosthuysen" data-source="post: 38828" data-attributes="member: 1070"><p>Like me and you have discussed,I won't suggest using wet substrate like I do and agree about the ventilation which can be seen on my setups as well. With the way I make my cages,the upside down way works great for me. I can just pick up the top change substrate and not once break a nest or disturb the specimen. </p><p></p><p>Then when feeding,I can again pick up the top part not disturb the nest turn it over drop in the feeder and wham it can eat turn it over enclosure is closed. In a normal setup,if I change substrate I will have to destroy the nest since it will at times either semi close or fully close the top. </p><p></p><p>Feeding in a normal enclosure isn't an issue like my setups have no problem as well,but just the fact I can do any maintenance and not once disturb the specimen mine is one up on the normal one. Also when having a plant attached to the top part,it is never in the way when removing the bottom where as mostly the other way around it isn't easy accessible. </p><p></p><p>So both have merits,but looking at the pros and cons,the old method loses some ground. Even front opening enclosures have been an issue,I had avics attaching webs to the enclosure opening and were at times disturbed. I would easily challenge someone on this,just changing substrate or getting into the cage area can be an issue due to webbing. I can even just turn it around and easily remove an uneaten feeder. </p><p></p><p>I guess I would suggest to someone test the two cage setups,be honest and open on the findings. Use logical perspective,and see how it works out. Now back to how to keep avics,like I mentioned above I won't suggest to keep them like I do bit keeping them like others do hasn't worked we have extreme temperatures and we have very dry air.</p><p></p><p>Added</p><p>Something I know that sets my setup apart from the normal one,I can do a whole cage cleaning without needing a catch cup nor moving the T nor needing another area to hold the T while this is done something I haven't mentioned but shows how nice and good the setup is. Poec you've got to admit,this point is just so strong no escapee no bite report I can say almost newbie proof haha.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Martin Oosthuysen, post: 38828, member: 1070"] Like me and you have discussed,I won't suggest using wet substrate like I do and agree about the ventilation which can be seen on my setups as well. With the way I make my cages,the upside down way works great for me. I can just pick up the top change substrate and not once break a nest or disturb the specimen. Then when feeding,I can again pick up the top part not disturb the nest turn it over drop in the feeder and wham it can eat turn it over enclosure is closed. In a normal setup,if I change substrate I will have to destroy the nest since it will at times either semi close or fully close the top. Feeding in a normal enclosure isn't an issue like my setups have no problem as well,but just the fact I can do any maintenance and not once disturb the specimen mine is one up on the normal one. Also when having a plant attached to the top part,it is never in the way when removing the bottom where as mostly the other way around it isn't easy accessible. So both have merits,but looking at the pros and cons,the old method loses some ground. Even front opening enclosures have been an issue,I had avics attaching webs to the enclosure opening and were at times disturbed. I would easily challenge someone on this,just changing substrate or getting into the cage area can be an issue due to webbing. I can even just turn it around and easily remove an uneaten feeder. I guess I would suggest to someone test the two cage setups,be honest and open on the findings. Use logical perspective,and see how it works out. Now back to how to keep avics,like I mentioned above I won't suggest to keep them like I do bit keeping them like others do hasn't worked we have extreme temperatures and we have very dry air. Added Something I know that sets my setup apart from the normal one,I can do a whole cage cleaning without needing a catch cup nor moving the T nor needing another area to hold the T while this is done something I haven't mentioned but shows how nice and good the setup is. Poec you've got to admit,this point is just so strong no escapee no bite report I can say almost newbie proof haha. [/QUOTE]
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